Martial Arts

[Kathleen]

WHAT STYLE OF MARTIAL ARTS DO YOU LIKE ??? :female-fighter::male-fighter2:

WHAT MARTIAL ARTS DO YOU TRAIN IN ??? :male-fighter1:

[Kathleen]

I am not a martial artist. I came to the forum looking for self defense topics. However in the five years I have read this forum I have learned so much and have developed an interest in martial arts. There is so much out there and it is evolving as well. Sadly we do not have the archives of this forum anymore as resource. There was a wealth of information. Since reading the forum I have read the Bruce Lee story and Chuck Norris autobiography. I have books on various martial arts as well. I have watched movies with martial artists and now ask "What Martial Art is it?". I have an interest in watching competitions. I have an interest in the martial art programs offered in my communities where I live and where I work. I have been talking to martial artists and have enjoyed it very much. I want to thank all the wonderful members of this forum who have helped to inspire me. You know who you are. Even though you did not know I was reading and paying attention I want to thank you . I enjoyed the many many topics as well. :good:

[Grant Douglass]

g'day i've knocked around a bit. i've done a fair slice of ninjitsu & full contact karate. after my time in the army i went back into martial arts. but do to the political climate in the martial arts world one style against another & one club against another my last instructor & i went underground & turned our backs on alot of martial arts.
It was here that we totally focused on Self defence, street aplications & military systems. i recently went & started back into a style which is a combination of tae kwon do, kung fu & kick boxing & self defence. ( very happy with it)
Great to start as a white belt again, mind you some of my previous training does on the odd occasion come out into play.
I have to always remind myself , not to buck the system.
I'm finding even in doing some style that i was never a fan of ,they all have some good things to take out of them. I do find it hard to punch & kick in my training because i as a rule wouldn't use alot of these techniques in the real world.
Physically the training is alot more full on , i'm alot older then most of the class , they are usually half my age at least.

Had bit of a laugh with a young guy half my age , he was alot taller. my goal was to slip past his weapon, secure it & disarm him, his goal was to keep the pistol & shoot me first chance he got.
i got past him time& time again, took him out. I also disarmed him.
I could see him getting alittle annouyed that i was getting past & taking him out, before he could move.
i put this down to larry's drills on movement, not totally focusing everything on the weapon.
taking out the man.

It worked like a charm. i confessed to the other guy with the gun, i'd been around a little.

This week in my own classes where i teach self defence ;i'll be teaching a student who is deaf.
He will have someone there to sign for him.
It should be very interesting & insightfull for both them & i.
nice to see someone with a phsyical disability getting out there & training. taking controll of their life & not letting a problem like this stop them .
i'll keep you all up to speed on how it goes.
digger

[Grant Douglass]

g'day Kottie, i plan on getting to the USA for a twinless twins conference, if i get the chance i'd love to catch up with you & the family. Mate it would be cool to have a training session with you all.
"the shed "has been a bit quiet of late, this week we are going to hit it big time.

When i'm at the new style , i'll slip in a Larry special into the mix. I might give it a few months before i do it.. i think it will stump them. i like to see how it works in another system.( i still train & fight like a self defence person, get it over fast & out of there, it's not a contest).

The instructor knows my background, the other night whilst in his club doing the self defence part
he came up to me at the end of the night & simply said
' boy you get into it don't you" i smiled & said back " sure do":embarrassed:
i think he's happy to have me on board.
I know my place , i'm there to learn.
digger

[Kathleen]

:wink: little brother

[Kathleen]

Henry,
Thanks for sharing your interests with me. I enjoyed it all!!. I remember your posts of long ago also. Thanks again. :yin-yang:

Digger,
My family would be happy to welcome you and your family to our country. We look forward to it. Please see your email I attached another message for you. :smile:

Larry,
I am going to be quiet for awhile. My husband and I are doing a lot of landscaping so I will be outside working hard but will enjoy the beauty of nature and my many flower gardens. Have fun on your next adventure and I want to hear all about it. BTW my daughter just showed us her new motorcycle... a bright green Kowasaki Ninja. (Remember your motorcycle days??? What kind of bike did you have??. My husband has his Harley Davidson torn apart. It's the apple of his eye. He is checking each piece. Its a 1982 Roadster with an iron head)

See ya all later,:glasses-cool:
Kottie

[Knood]

I liked ninjitsu...

I practised Kuroi ryu Ninjitsu and Kurokumo Shinobi Goshido under the teachings of a red belt 10th dan grandmaster sensei Arie van den Akker in the Netherlands.

It was a very good teacher , but later it came out that many of his his claims were not the real thing, so then he walked away and stopped with ninjitsu, his students walked away and he became a loner in the martial arts world. I had a great time with sensei arie van Den Akker though.

Many martial arts are good it depends on what you look for, but the most effective is brasilian jiu jitsu and mixed martial arts iguess.

[Larry Wick]

Hi Everyone,


I hope that you all are in good healthand spirit. I have been training in Tang Soo Do over forty years. Wow I cannot believe how fast time goes by. I have had the honor to train with many different martial arts instructors and have learned so much from all of them. Each style has their own concepts and ideas which I deeply respect. To all that are part of this forum. I hope that you all keep an open mind, be ready to experiment, enjoy the challenges that all styles of martial arts present and enjoy life. Grant, it is great to hear from you and I hope that your training is going well. Kathleen, do not work to hard with your landscaping as I want you to enjoy the summer. Kottie, I had a 1976 Centenial Harley which I customized and put a heck of alot of miles on. Those memories will last a life time. As for myself, I will be doing alot of traveling, I will be in Canada, Alabama, New York, Minnesota, North Carolina, Washington, California, Florida, and where ever else I am needed and can be of help. To all I sure do look meeting you if I am ever in your area. Until then, hold the fort!!!!! and be safe, Your friend, Larry

[Greg Newton]

Hi Larry and others,

I trained in Wol Ge Kwon Hapkido for many years. I later took up Kajukenbo, which was very rough and tumble. I prefered working self-defense techniques, grappling and katas to sparring, especially tournament sparring which I loathe. But, being part of the Kaju syllabus and being a dutiful student, I gave it my best effort.

I have to say that after getting to see the Split Second Survival videos it has changed many of my conceptions regarding self-defense. Every art has advantages and disadvantages, but what you are teaching strips everything to the bare boned essentials. Of course, you've related to me that you've gone way beyond SSS. I don't see how it get anymore straight to the wall effective, but until I get to see for myself, I'll take your word.

Best wishes,

Greg Newton

[tom]

I've done Shotokan for over 40 years. It's great for what it is and from Larry's DVDs I notice it shares the same ideal of not waking up the other person. But after a friend that I trust (a very strong, blunt, nearly impossible to impress friend) came back with a favorable report of Larry, my sometime not too distant future goal is to go to Larry's seminar when money, time, location, and transportation work out.

Tom

[MikeNY]

Most modern Martial Arts are now Sports, not Combat Systems. At the time I'd retired our Department had adopted the FBI Method of Defensive Tactics, for legal reasons. I was lucky trained in Italian Savate (Schiafferia co’ i cauci, Pugno) Boxing and Boxing from a early age, later Wrestling, Savate, Judo, Jujitsu and Chinese Boxing Shaolin Ssu and trained Officers in my unit. Was on the Wrestling Team, Judo Team and Boxing Sqd. for sport as well as regular sports teams.

I have heard that SEALS use MMA, Marines & Force Recon train now train in a MMA MCMAP, Rangers train with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu & SF units training with South African MMA. Military Combat Techniques moved to MMA as it is seen as more results orirented and not a Sport. What I've seen of SSS is that it is results oriented.

Make sure what you learn is combat oriented if it is for self defense.

[lafnjack]

I think there's a lot of good things in Aikido. HOWEVER, I'd say the following as a caution/warning:
1) O'Sensei and his first generation students always stressed Atemi. Not as a distractionary technique for entry, but as a strike that NEEDED to be avoided. Infact, during the evolution of Daito-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu to Aikido, most of the students were seriously injured and hurt during practice. It wasn't until O'Sensei elevated Aikido as "do" instead of a "jutsu" (ie: a way to build the inner man instead of a pure fighting method) that atemi's became relegated to distractionary techniques.
2) If someone were to have a good kickboxing foundation, Aikido would be an excellent supplement. The ability to punch, kick, elbow, and knee within a mobile framework lends itself to the ability to take advantage of an opponent's downed defenses, so you can enter for a lock. Most Aikido demo's and methods to learn technique require a compliant uke. A non-compliant person doesn't generally over-extend their center of gravity for the purpose of letting you learn a technique. A non-compliant person who has intent to do you harm would be even more difficult to control.

I would like to cite the fact that no one in MMA (other than the BJJ group) has been able to control someone without hurting them. And even the BJJ group has had to include a more functional kickboxing toolset to accomidate the strikers who have learned the BJJ game.

This is just my opinion. I only bring this up to caution folks who may NOT have trained in martial arts, but have unrealistic expectations of efficacy. But the UFC provides an absolutely fascinating "timewarp" that's allowed us to watch the FASTEST evolution in history. Within 20 years, we've seen (within the parameters of the sport) what works and how things have grown as a result. To ignore the fact that something that's been open to ALL arts, has eventually whittled itself down to a kickboxing striking game, a wrestler's takedown, and a BJJ groundgame (with some minor variations here and there such as Machida's Karate versus traditional Muay Thai or Judo takedowns versus wrestler's single-leg's) is somewhat perilous for those who are concerned with self-defense.

This isn't pointed to anyone who's posted. Again, its just a caution for anyone who might read the thread.

Finally, I would simply add that every art is training for a different scenario. We all envision the possible fight we will encounter. And that colors our perceptions of what works. My concern is not the same as someone else (and this doesn't even go into those who study the arts for NON-self-defense related reasons). As a result, I am simply stating that for the scenario >I< am training for, I am studying a different method.

lafnjack

[MikeNY]

At one time there was always a wrestling or groundwork part of most martial arts, with the modern age that fell away. Kung fu always had Chin na, JiuJitsu, Judo and AikiJitsu had Atemi waza, Pankration had Pale, Savate had LaLutte and so it was with most combat systems even Sherlock Holmes's Bartitsu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartitsu Even Bare Knuckle Boxing used Wrestling moves.

MMA just returned combat arts to its old course. Until WWII and just after most combat arts retained thier grappling element. If you look at WWII or older books on combat you'll see a mixed art. BJJ is also a blended art, JiuJitsu/Judo used Boxing and Brazilian Capoeira. Grappling is not as cool to see in movie but it works in real life.

[TejasT]

I practice Tai Chi and kickboxing. Unfortunately I don't have the means for an instructor right now. However, I have a terrific Terry Dunn Tai Chi DVD that I use. From what I've heard, Aikido seems to be a terrific complement to Tai Chi. I will have to explore that sometime.

For the kickboxing, I listen to a Bas Rutten MMA CD (where he calls out combos). At the least, it's a great workout. I stick to just a couple basic kicks and knees.

[TejasT]

I practice Tai Chi and kickboxing. Unfortunately I don't have the means for an instructor right now. However, I have a terrific Terry Dunn Tai Chi DVD that I use. From what I've heard, Aikido seems to be a terrific complement to Tai Chi. I will have to explore that sometime.

For the kickboxing, I listen to a Bas Rutten MMA CD (where he calls out combos). At the least, it's a great workout. I stick to just a couple basic kicks and knees.

[blackbelt]

I've practiced Moo Moo Kwan Hap Ki Do, for going on 15 years now. The senior student at my school is a law enforcement officer. When I began, he was a 2nd Dan in Tai Kwan Do, and a 3rd Dan in Hap Ki Do. One of his reasons for “switching over” was the added versatility of Hap Ki Do. I always tell people it’s kind of a mix of: Tai Kwan Do, Aikido, Judo, Jui Jit Tsu and others. We even do techniques with staffs and swords.

Even given my fondness of Hap Ki Do, I’ll give you the same advice I give to people who ask me directly.

Find schools in your area, call to get information on rates and class schedules. Then, go and watch 2 or more classes. If they won’t let you watch a class, you might not want to go there. Watching classes is the only real way you’re going to know if the art is for you or not.

Most martial artists have their favorites. But, I’m of the opinion that every martial art is good. Who wins a fight largely depends on the skill and frequency of training for each practitioner.

Just like people are individuals, so are arts. Not every art is for everyone.