Article Obama is a Hypnotist: answers a lot of questions

[MikeNY]

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[John Peterson]

Hey Mike,

Absolutely great information in that article. The techniques outlined in that article were first used and refined by another politician during the 1920's and 1930's. He was able to sway millions with the modulation of his speech and even intentionally lowered the volume of his voice so that people would literally strain to hear what he was saying. Once he knew he had them within the 'grip' of his oratory, he raised the volume to drive the point home. The effectiveness of his methods were without equal . In fact, during so called 'peace negotiations' this man could talk other 'Prime Ministers' out of vast territories merely by looking them in the eye and 'mesmerizing' them. This man was Adolph Hitler. The techniques of 'Mesmer' were identical to what Obama has used today though new names have been created to make it sound new. Believe me, it is not. It is however, Mesmerization of the masses that is happening on an unprecedented scale.. But get this Mike, today the technique extends far, far beyond what Hitler had at his disposal because we now we have the internet and television to further drive home the message. Bottomline: The masses are being manipulated and don't even know it. This literally spells the end of freedom as people willingly 'check their brain in at the door'.


----John Peterson

[Free]

Wow Mike, I am half way through the article, and just had to comment. Thank you for posting this. As a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, I can confirm this is entirely accurate. This is a long, and very detailed paper, that very clearly points out what Obama is doing, and perfectly explains the mindless following he has cultivated.

It requires a solid, independant critical free thinking individual to bypass the effect of such control. I am confident, a study on Obama supporters would reveal a strong correlation between Hypnotic Suggestibility and their support for "The One". This also explains his strong following among young people, as the critical reasoning centers of their brains are not fully developed yet.

Everyone, especially Obama supporters, owe it to themselves to read this paper. Even if he gets elected, it is imperative that people re-activate the critical reasoning necessary to prevent further blind worship, as he is sure to use these techniques, if they put him in office.

[gruntbrain]

Let's hope awareness immunizes us

[MikeNY]

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[DJ]

An interesting article. I must add a little to this discussion.

John, I may be reading something into your post that is not there and if so I apologize. I think it is unfair to equate Obama with Hitler (directly or indirectly). Just because two people may share a skill does not equate them morally. This skill is just that, a skill. Many people believe certain religious figures such a Jesus had this skill also but I am fairly sure that replacing 'Obama' with 'Jesus' in your post would offend many folks on this board.

Once again, if I've read something into your post that is not there I apologize.

[Free]

Hopefully Obama wins. I haven't seen people so optimistic since JFK or Eisenhower was elected. I believe Obama has the kind of leadership needed to put the US back on track.

You are getting very sleeepy... sleeeepy.:hypnotized::yawn::sinister:

[JoeJustice]

Bob is Canadian, so he gets all of the feel good and none of the taxes from an Obama win! Win win for him :wink:

[JoeJustice]

I'm trying to figure out the time zone shown on the posts. It's either 8 hours ahead which makes it tomorrow in Ireland or 16 hours behind which makes it China!? It's Tuesday here.

Obama is already screwing with the time!!!

-Joe

[MikeNY]

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[Free]

I guess this is no surprise:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuHXF0016qE&eurl=http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/some_voters_voting_twice/

Just another criminal voting for mugger in chief.

[JoeJustice]

I think John is saying that the hypnotism discussed in that article is real, not that Obama is like Hitlar. The same hypnotism is used in TV commercials and print advertisements. Read the article, it's really about the techniques of hypnotism, though with a decidedly anti-Obama message.

I don't think John looks over here very often, so you'd probably have to PM him or post the question in his forum to as him to clear up his comment, though.

-Joe

[blackbelt]

Is there a reason peacekeeper's avatar just disappeared?

[John Peterson]

Hey PeaceKeeper,

I just sent you a private e-mail. Believe me, it was not my intention to imply that President Obama is even remotely like Adolph Hitler from a moral perspective. But let's be real, like it or not, Hitler was a master communicator. His oratory skills and power of persuasion were second to none. In fact, Adolph Hitler was chosen as man of the year in 1938 by TIME Magazine and was featured on it's cover. He was not considered as anything less than a brilliant statesman and politician until after WWII began.

President Obama has that same ability to connect to the masses. He is the most brilliant and gifted orator I have ever seen. His abilities are second to none. If he uses his gifts and abilities to instill confidence and to eradicate fear and pessimism, and if he uses his skills to bring people together and move forward, his will be an extraordinary presidency.


One other thing to remember as far as President Obama is concerned, is that he has stepped into one of the toughest situations in history and needs the prayers and support of every American , by that I mean all of us. It is my prayer that he will use his gifts to reinvigorate hope in America. It's not a question of whether or not someone voted for him, the point is, he's our President and he needs our support.


---John Peterson

P.S. Tim, you posted this on my forum and I don't want any political discussions to appear there so I removed it. But I'm happy to reply to it here because this is where it was posted originally.

[John Peterson]

hey Friends,

I certainly have not banned him but he is apparently extremely angry that I removed a post referencing what was posted here from my forum. I was not doing it to be rude but it did not belong on my forum since it was originally posted over here.

---John Peterson

[blackbelt]

I hope he’s not as upset as to stop posting here. But, I do understand where he was coming from.

At first glance the comparison could seem like it was in reference to the individual (Obama, Hitler). But, a closer look will show that it was a comparison of their speaking skills.

Skills aren’t good or bad, but the people who use them CAN be.

[Nathan]

I agree with what your saying John. What is started over here needs to stay over here. But like Rob said I hope he doesn't stop posting here. :sad:


---Nathan Clay

[DJ]

John,

Thanks for clarifying your comments.

DJ

[DJ]

ddc,

I may be wrong but I think the environment on this forum over the past month or so combined with this thread may have all added up to Tim's displeasure. I for one can certainly understand his feelings as there have been some outlandish accusations, conspiracy theories, etc. that have been spewed out. If one looks objectively at Obama's (as Obama tends to be the focus of ridicule) life up to this point it has been one of real service for those less fortunate (what a horrible man!). I also realize that there will always be folks that are suspicious, untrusting and basically mean spirited. Whether you supported Obama or not I hope you all see how important this is and take joy in that. A man who would have been considered a second class citizen 40 years ago because of his race will now have the most powerful job in our country.

Lastly, I gave two fellows I know a copy of John's books to read (and by the way one is Rebublican and one is a Democrat). They both told me that they ended up coming to this web site and leaving due to the distorted information that some folks were putting on this forum . It's to the point that I half expect someone to try and link Obama to JFKs death.

ddc, the first sentence was a reply to you. Sorry for the rest of the rambling . I just think Tim needs some support.

[Andy62]

D.J. I am sorry that you feel that way. This forum was created so that mature people could discuss topics that are somewhat controversial and disagree with each other,but in a respectul manner. I honestly don't think that we have exceeded those boundaries in this discussion.

[monty]

DJ,

Not sure I get where on this forum people are being offensive?????. Most of the posts are on fitness. Maybe your friends are sensitive or they are not into the training principles on this website.
I don't know. I frequent quite a few websites and this one is the most civil of them all.

As far as bad mothing Obama, well we are all entitled to our opinion. I can't please everybody and they all can't please me. I wrote in Ron Paul and feel strongly that he is the only sane guy in Washington. HAHA!!
Do you agree, probably not.


Sounds like some who may be offended about people talking about God. I know this offends some or maybe they had a bad experience with religion. Some on here talk much about chi or mythology, I don't really agree with it but it there opinion.
Anyway, I guess I am defending this forum becuase I think most posters are very respectful.

Monty

[John Peterson]

You know Friends,

I have lived long enough to tell you that it's simply too soon to tell. And much to soon to get in an uproar one way or the other about our New President. There are people that believe President Obama will be the best thing to ever happen to America. And some that believe the exact opposite. The truth is, the world is changing at a rate of speed that is unprecedented. Our new President will be tested. There is no way around that. It is then and then only that Americans will know what kind of President he will be. For this reason I pray for our President. every day. And seriously, wouldn't it be wonderful if our new President were to ask God for daily guidance(considering what he has stepped into, I wouldn't be surprised if he did just that) and perform above everyone's expectations? I think that it would be great for everyone. But time will tell us soon enough. So this is my bottom line when it comes to our new President. Give him some slack and give him some time. His true character will be revealed soon enough. It is then and then only that we will know the character and abilities of the man that has been elected as our President.

---John Peterson
P.S. Friends I just read Monty's post above mine. In issues of faith, I will never force my faith on anyone. But at the same time, Jesus said, "If you are ashamed of me before men, I will be ashamed of you before my Father in Heaven." Bottom line, I'm not ashamed of my faith in Jesus Christ and I'm honored to be an ordained Minister of His Gospel.

[MikeNY]

Todays newspaper carried an article that Russia's President is moving missles to the Polish Border in response to Nato setting up a defensive missle shield there, that Russia opposes. There was a report on TV that Putin thinks Obama is weak and just a talker, held a conference of all Russian Political Parties and wants to re-establish the Russian Empire within two years; Putin noted Obama will still be talking about the shape of the conference table while Putin rebuilds the Empire. Looks like Biden saw this coming as well as other trouble spots ahead.

We are all living in troubled times.

[gruntbrain]

Forget hypnosis, Obama will have to be an magician to bail us out on a macro level. It's still up to us to remain "solvent" on a micro level

[VRT Man]

You know Friends, I have lived long enough to tell you that it's simply too soon to tell. And much too soon to get in an uproar one way or the other about our New President. There are people that believe President Obama will be the best thing to ever happen to America. And some that believe the exact opposite.

I think we can all agree to disagree. This is not a bad forum, no one flames anyone else, and that is a good thing. I myself did not vote for Obama, but I must agree with John; once the gentleman is in office, let's offer our prayers for a successful launch of the ship of the United States under this our new captain.

Predictions are simply that; largely, vocalized opinions of a minority of people of what could happen and might happen; not what WILL happen. Human energies can be directed and re-directed by the power of thought, which evolves with the daily change of events; no one can predict that Putin will show down Obama anymore than Krushchev could've shown down Kennedy in the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Incidentally, Krushchev thought Kennedy was a young, rich, ineffectual weakling too when he took office, but soon found out to the contrary.) Let's see what the unfolding of time will reveal.

--Greg Mangan

[Andy62]

Well, I believe that beneath all of the economics and political positioning are the power shifts in the world and the military threat. I was trained at the US Army Intelligence Shool and served in the Intelligence Corps during the Cold War and I have been watching this whole situation in Europe develop. When the Russians Attacked Georgia my first thought was that was a "warning shot " and "putting a round over the bow." Putin has repeatedly stated his desire to reunite the states of the former Soviet Union. At the same time the Europeans, made passive and weakened by overly protective societies, have not reacted too the fact that The Russians have taken control of them by taking control of their oil and energy suppies. Anybody who has even the most fundamental and limited understanding of military strategy has to see the threat. Keep those thoughts in your head as the future unfolds. Remember our friend Thucydides, the father of scientific history, who pointed out that wars have "causes" and "effects" and "might" vs "right."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thucydides

[gruntbrain]

There's at least 1 positive to the Obama agenda; he promises to susbstantially increase funding to Biotech.
If true, then buy IBB.

[Andy62]

Defense stocks may be the way to go.

[Andy62]

New York Time 11/6/08

The criticism of American finance coincided with a rise in Russian military bluster that has been viewed by some in the West as a resurgence of the Kremlin’s cold-war mentality. On Thursday, Russian generals announced plans for the largest air force exercise since the collapse of the Soviet Union, called Stability 2008, to be held next week. Also on Thursday, the deputy commander of Russia’s navy said the country would build eight new nuclear submarines before 2015.

[John Peterson]

You know Gordon,

This "Cold War" has the likelihood to be a whole lot different than the first one. Back then the Soviets didn't control Oil and energy for all of Europe and they did not have the technologies and everything that goes with them. That's all changed. It's a new era with completely different objectives at stake. This 'Cold War" has the potential of making the old one appear like a walk in the park by comparison.

---John Peterson

[Greg Newton]

Hi Guys,

I teach high school in a strong Republican area. For the last two days I've had to redirect students from making slighting, threatening, and racial comments about our president elect. I've told them that whether or not he was your candidate, he was elected by the majority of Americans, he is our president and we need to support him. This is not an endorsement of Obama, but I am concerned about the racial tensions that could enflame on both sides if we are not careful.

I am also concerned with the people who equate Obama with the Anti-Christ, which I have also heard a lot of in the last couple of days. We are pandering to fear if we start demonizing a leader in this way. The Bible tells us that God places leaders in authority and that we are to pray for them.

I am not aiming these comments towards anyone. I just want everyone to think about the responsibility we have to influence the next generation and there is more at stake here than just a liberal agenda that a lot of us disagree with.

I also have to add that I keep editting this post, because I am not intending in anyway to call anyone on the carpet on this. John has pretty much covered the same things I've said. The main thing I wanted us to think about is the heightened racial tension and fear that could be created if we were not careful in what was said or repeated.

[Andy62]

Greg, Fortunately I have not come across anyone with racial complaints about our new President elect and most people that I have come across wish him well.

John, the circumstances are completely reversed. We won the oiriginal cold war because President Reagan used the superior economic strength of the US at that time to spend the Soviets into submission and break their economies. With the US in it's present challenged economic condition, along with the rest of the western industrial world, the leverage currently goes to Russia with their vast natural resource wealth. Russia has also recently formed an alliance with China and conducted joint military training maneuvers with them. Russia also has alliances with Venezuela and Iran. Russia combined with their allies represent a formidable challenge to the west economically and militarily.

[MikeNY]

Back when Pat Buchanan was running against Bob Dole for the Republican Nomination a Republican Poll Watcher (here in the NY Party members Monitor Elections, one from each Party) and his Democratic Oppositte were monitoring the Primary. It was a cold, rainy day and few Republicans showed and all wore a Buchanan buttons. The PollWatcher knew his Precinct and knew Bob Dole went down in flames, told his wife after the Polls closed. The next morning he opened his Newpaper to check the results and was stunned Bob Dole won his Precinct by a landslide. Voting Machines here are monitored by officals of both Parties and it would take both Parties to fix an Election; and they fixed that Primary.

A Democratic friend told me that Republican Governor G. Pataki of NY fixed the Senatorial Election for Hillary Clinton. Later he was repaid, when former Gov. Cuomo's son was the leading contender to run against Pataki. The son was a candidate and had lunch with Bill Clinton (per the newspapers) and after lunch withdrew so another, Carl McCall ran for Governor for the Democrats and lost.

A friend of mine was asked to run for Public Office, he was a Republican and asked to run by the Democrats to run as a Republican for Office and lose, both Parties asked him to run and lose.

Rumors circulated last year early; that Obama was going to win this year. For all of us lets hope he does a good job. A Democratic friend noted he was the keynote Speaker at the last Convention and that was the sign.

Russia has leverage, natural resources and allies. The Russian attack on Georgia was a test for Europe & the World; and Putin won that bet. You can guess he was watching the American reaction. Putin has said the greastest disaster of the last century was the end of the Russian Empire and he will rebuild it.

[Free]

This is pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac

:act-up::act-up:

[JoeJustice]

This is pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac

:act-up::act-up:

My favorite part is the headline at the end, "Dow Jones plunges on news the Dow Jones plunges."

:rotfl:

-Joe

[MikeNY]

I watched a few they are funny and addictive! :dazed:

[Andy62]

molto-b, I agree with you if reason prevails. Let's hope that it does, but the formation of the alliances and the passivity of the Europeans while Russia was taking over their energy supply doesn't make me optimistic.

[Greg Newton]

Hey Free,

That is the kind of humor I can get into! Thanks!

[MikeNY]

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[DJ]

Hi all,

Many things have been written since I was last here and a couple in reference to me so I'd like to respond (sorry for not doing so by name).

Yes this is a forum where people express their ideas. It seems to me that there is a line beyond which one should not cross and it is where that line is drawn that establishes the character of the forum. During my time here John has done that on his forum ('Ask John') every now and then and I believe that is why it is considered a host of good information. He doesn't allow outrageous tales or bitter rumors.

My posts have been about treating people fairly and since the object of much of the ridicule was Obama I attempted to point out where the information was simply fabricated or contained the ever present leap of logic. This false information was meant to sway peoples thoughts or rile up anger based on anything but factual information. Let's be honest folks, there's a thread where we have people seeing Obama as being responsible for the attack of a McCain volunteer. Then when we found out the story was false the thread was mysteriously seen as unimportant. Of course at that point McCain wasn't seen as being responsible for the lying volunteer! I'm not saying he should have been, I'm just pointing out the inconsistent logic and the obvious bias.

So when I say that my guess is that part of what may have upset Tim was the hostile environment that's what I'm talking about. There are some great people on this site and I've enjoyed a lot of their posts. The common thread between all the posters that I enjoy here is that they're not angry, bitter or hateful.

Thanks,

DJ

[Free]

Excellent article Mike.

If anything, I don't think Obama has been held up to close enough scrutiny. It is apparently very difficult for some to see their "American Idol", his past associations, rhetoric, and proposed policies held under the microscope. If the media had acted in a professional, non partisan way, and covered the stories that some of the members here have intelligently discussed, the outcome may have been different.

The color of his skin is irrelevant to the state of the economy, and there is evidence that there may have been as many as 5 other Presidents before him, with black ancestry. The fact that people voted for Obama just because of his ancestry, is a testament to how a non issue can completely obscure what is important.

Now that he is our "President Elect", one can only hope, that he will continue to move from the far left, to the center right, and abandon some of the proposals, and ideology that garnered the votes of many of the people who are looking for a handout, or wish to bring down this great country. He has an opportunity now, to become something more than an empty suit. It is time for "Change", let us support our "President Elect", and hope for the most important change our country needs right now, a change in his substance and direction.

[Andy62]

The world is in it's greatest state of change and at a pace that no one has ever seen before. I believe that the worlds current situation is the result of many factors which combined disturbed the state of equilibrium
[ economic, social, and power based] that existed in the world previously. Human nature has brought us to this point assisted by the historical forces of the information revolution and globalization. As I went through my business career I was in a lot of different situations and I watched various people advance in their careers and accept increased power, responsibility, and authority. It is like taking a college star quarterback and putting him in the NFL- some make it and some don't and it is hard to predict how well they will perform in their new environment as they face new pressures and unpredicatble situations. I did not vote of President Elect Obama. My decision had nothing to do with race,but rather was based on his lack of experience in management type psychologically and politically intense situations. While I was watching his news conference yesterday I noticed that he was different and it was apparent to me in his body language. He was no longer the hopeful on the attack,but rather a man starting to feel the enormity of what he was into and the difficulties and responsibilites facing him. With my backgroung in Intelligence the most significant question that he faced, in my opinion, was from CNN Reporter Candy Crowley who asked him if that now that he was starting to be see highly classified intelligence reports whether or not they he had learned information that contradicted his previous conlusions- he did not answer the quest,but rather deferred. President Obama is going to see things that he never has and face challenges that he never even knew existed. He will find that some of the positions that he took in the campaign will now be used against him and interpreted as weakness both domestically and internationally. As is always the case; many of his greated challenges and his toughest battles will be against those who were his greatest supporters to this point. They all had their own agendas and things that they wanted- they weren't doing it just for good old Barack. He will have to change a lot of his previously reached conclusions as new information and circumstances makes them no longer viable in his mind. I hope and pray for his success with all of may heart. His is truly a historic opportunity as his destiny becomes entwined with that of America and together we realize that the frontier that we faced in America was only the training ground for the frontier that we now face and was just made to strengthen us for the task ahead.