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Greg Newton
07-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Does anyone remember the fat scare from the early nineties and how carbohydrates were the only way to go for losing weight and health? I was talking to a friend about nutrition and this story came up.

In the early nineties a bodybuilder who I'll call Keith (not his real name) was a rookie police officer at the department I worked for at the time. He was in his late twenties, had the small waist, deep chest, and seventeen inch arms and had done several cycles of steroids to compete in bodybuilding contests. I was in my bulky phase at the time, weighing 217 at 5-10, and I was snacking on almonds in a desperate attempt to change my eating habits and lose all the extra weight I'd gained with the 20rep squats.

Keith wasn't and isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. If it was in the muscles mags, he believed it. He told me the almonds would make me fat and give me heart disease. And, he tried to give me Bill Phillips' book to prove his point.

Last winter I ran into him at a conference. He is now working as an officer in a high school. The tables are reversed now. I have the small waist and he is bulky, fat, and sporting at least a forty plus waist. He also looked ten years older instead of ten years younger than me. Keith still trains though, and still believes everything he reads in the muscle magazines.

The biggest irony comes from this. If I had told him about how I train now, Keith would have gone into great detail to explain to me how pushups, situps and isometrics could never produce the results I'd gotten with John's methods.

Does that ring a bell with anyone? What happened to common wisdom a.k.a. common sense when it comes to nutrition and exercise? I've been following physical culture since the early seventies and as far as I can tell, the common sense wisdom practiced by McFadden, Tilney, and Bragg in the 1920's and earlier are still relevant today.

Scientific studies come and studies go. I know one rolly polly armchair trainer that is so adept at finding scientific research on the internet that he finds studies that refutes other studies that he has previously used to support his ever changing point of view. Kind of like John's buddy who bought all the courses and never followed them when they were kids.

In the early seventies we were warned about eggs being dangerous and causing heart disease and decades later, although long refuted, we still accept the advice of only eating the whites. In the eighties hydrogenated vegetable based oils (trans fats) were the way to go instead of those horrible saturated animal fats. I'll never forget a portly friend of mine setting down to a double plate of french fries telling me they were heart friendly because the cooking oil was "cholesterol free." In the nineties carbohydrates were king and all fats were bad. Now we have an epidemic of obese Americans.

You see, the scientific method is a good way to determine the validity of a point. However, scientific studies have to be funded which often skews the results. Why did few question the recent Harvard study on vitamin E? The E used was the synthetic variety derived from cottonseed oil. A drug company funded the study. Yet, from that study, the mantra of vitamin supplementation doesn't work became the voice of the press.

I guess the point I am trying to make is, be careful of swallowing the next scientific study you hear about. Be careful of what you read. Do your homework and look for the agenda. Who are these results going to financially support? Last, look what is being promoted and look at the source. I look at John Peterson and I see a healthy, fit guy. Twentyfour/Seven, John is a healthy, fit guy. I then look in the mirror and I see a healthy, fit guy who follows John Peterson's advice and thanks God every day of his life for that advice.

Not all the voices out there seeking your buck through their supplements, books, or programs can say that. Many don't look like they train or eat right at all, or else they looked good at one point in their life when they were dieting and taking chemical enhancements, but don't look so good now. Why take someone like that's advice? Are you going to take gardening advice from the guy who raises the prize tomatoes or the well read gent who can tell you everything you are supposed to know about gardening and can quote agronomy backwards and forwards, yet never has soiled his hands. Caveat Emptor or as my Aunt Ozell used to say, "You can't trust a skinny cook."

MikeNY
07-07-2009, 06:23 AM
IMHO the reason that Atlas, McFadden, and Bragg stand the test of time is simple, they created reasonable systems that work. Junk science creates junk results, the Carbohydrates Industry wanted to sell us products and pushed it's line of goods as science, 20 years later we have an obese society. One of the reasons Paul Bragg and McFadden books still sell and the Atlas Course is they are still topdrawer.

Doc Al
07-07-2009, 06:45 AM
Does anyone remember the fat scare from the early nineties and how carbohydrates were the only way to go for losing weight and health?
Great story, Greg, and I certainly do remember those fat scare days. I even bought into it a bit myself. I have several books in my library from those days that claim that avoiding fat at all costs is the secret to health and that as long as you stick to carbohydrates you'll never get fat. LOL. That's almost the polar opposite of what I believe and practice today.

gruntbrain
07-07-2009, 07:57 AM
The Zone Diet was introduced in 1995. Although I've never been a strict "Zoner", I use a VERY rough approximation. I credit the Zone for converting me from brawny to healthy scrawny; of course, establishing a true casuse/effect is iffy.

JoeJustice
07-07-2009, 09:27 AM
I think the focus on "science" has really made people lazy and lacking in critical thinking. Now why do I say that? I'm sure the statement will get a few eyebrows traveling up.

Well, what is presented to us as "science" is very often the conclusion of the researcher who conducted a study. The problem is, no one ever digs deep into the study to determine if the researcher was correct in his/her assessment.

Let me give you an hypothetical...

Say there's clinical study of HIIT vs. steady state cardio over a 3 month period. The HIIT group loses 2lbs and the steady state cardio loses 4lbs. Well the conclusion of the researcher will be, "Steady State Cardio Burns 200% more fat than HIIT!" 200% more! Wow! That's a lot! Well, the problem is no one reads the study. If you say, "HIIT burned 2lbs and steady state burned 4lbs over 3 month period," it won't impress anyone, but "Steady State Cardio Burns 200% more fat than HIIT!" Now THAT will grab headlines. And better yet, both statement are 100% factually correct.

Now what happens next is magazine editors see this study and write an article on how "science" has "proved" that steady state cardio is 200% better at burning fat than HIIT. Then some author picks up on the idea and writes a whole book and how HIIT is useless hype and science has proven it so. The author shows up on The Today Show and Live With Regis and Kelly, Nike comes out with "Super Dooper Long Running Shoes" and suddenly it becomes part of the culture and fitness dogma. At this point, no one ever bothers to go back and look at the original research, it's all a long lost memory. That is until the next study where a researchers "proves" HIIT burns 400% more fat than steady state. Then we get the "experts" talking about how we've been all wrong for all these years!

This cycle sound familiar? :)

Common sense, critical thinking and self experimentation. Research can throw a light on the subject but I'm a big believer the old adage that experience is the best teacher.

-Joe

John Peterson
07-07-2009, 10:37 AM
Hey Greg,

Fantastic insights my friend. Atlas, MacFadden, Bragg, and Tilney, they were all pioneers. Good men all. One thing I really liked about the Atlas Course is the section on nutrition that Doc Tilney had written. It was all about balanced eating. Same was true of Bragg. These men understood that the body was intended to be fueled by a balance proteins, fats, and carbohydrates. They understood the importance of fresh, natural, and organic food whenever possible and practical. Fresh Vegetables, Fresh Fruits, Lean Meats, Fish, Eggs and Dairy Products with a very limited amount of starches from grains or potatoes was what they taught. Simple and easy to understand.

My friend Noel Johnson used the Atlas/Tilney, and Bragg dietary recommendations which he modified to fit his own tastes to totally transform himself from a fat, impotent, grossly out of shape man at 70 that sometimes smoked up to five packs a day with more than sixty pounds of extra fat on his 5'7" frame (weighing in at almost 200 at one point) and got himself down to a lithe sculpted and conditioned athlete weighing 135 pounds(his fighting weight). At age 80, he wrote his first book "A Dud at 70, A Stud at 80" which was actually published when he was 83. The truth is that Noel did not reach his peak physically until he was in his early eighties.But he had actually transformed himself in less than three years and articles began appearing in newspapers about him when he was 73 years old. I mention this because Noel used to laugh about all of the contradictory diet and nutrition books that were being published throughout the eighties and into the 90's. He thought that it was hilarious that there was so much contradiction between the authors as related to diet and he used to warn his audiences to take it easy with regard to reading diet books by different authors because as he said, it could only serve to confuse you if you read too many contradictory opinions. In fact, in his lectures he often quoted Mark Twain's famous line. "Be careful about the advice you read in health books. You might die because of a misprint." Funny? Yes. But Also true.

For instance, we all know that obesity and diabetes sky-rocketed due to the high carb/low fat craze throughout the 1990's up through the present in 2009. At the same time erectile dysfunction( the politically correct term for impotence) has also skyrocketed. Why? Because men became estrogen dominate from all the grains and carbs they eat and all the environmental pollutants they are exposed to. At the same time by starving themselves of the necessary fats needed for hormone production they have destroyed their testosterone/estrogen balance and made themselves impotent. Bottom line: If you want to turn yourself into a eunuch, eat high carbs(especially grains) and deny yourself the healthy fat that your body needs. It's guaranteed to work because if your body isn't producing testosterone you won't feel like strength training and if you don't strength train, your body won't be stimulated to produce HGH. When that happens you become fat, lethargic and depressed. Exactly the same symptoms Noel Johnson suffered from.

Now friends, please re-read what I have just written and notice that I am not advocating a 'high fat' diet. Far from it. I advocate a 'balanced fat/protein/carb diet' with heavy emphasis on natural and organic foods when possible with predominant emphasis on Vegetables, Fruit, Lean Meats,fish, poultry, Eggs, Dairy, and only minimal amounts of grain. And remember, grains are used to fatten cattle. So don't buy into the need for including more grains. Instead go for more vegetables and fruits.

---John Peterson

gruntbrain
07-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Even if science establishes a magic protocol it doesn't mean it'll work for everyone; applying a protocol correctly is no easy thing (eg DVRs). Hence, as usual be your own trainer , have fun,& experiment your way to "magic"

John Peterson
07-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Hey Joe Justice,

Isn't it great to have a physique that you can be proud of? Great work brother! You're looking great.

---John Peterson