Steak

[JoeJustice]

Man, I was just thinking how much I love steak!! Who needs whey protein isolate when you can have a steak? Wild game steak is good too. Venison... oh man... :drool: Very healthy to boot. Lots of Omega 3 and 6. It's all about grass fed. John tells me the virtues of Bison steak, but I have yet to try any. I've looked and they don't really sell that stuff in my area. One of these days I'm going to find some, though.

Best steak I've ever had was at a little restaurant called the Jefferson Street Grille in Lewisburg, WV. I order a baseball steak, rare and man, it was good! There's a 5 start resort called The Greenbriar near the town of Lewisburg, WV and the restaurants in the area are pretty nice because of it.

The steak in the Caribbean are pretty good, but as thin as shoe leather. I have yet to get a decent steak in New York City, but that could easily be because I just don't know where to look. Unfortunately, I've never been to Texas, I hear that's where the real steaks live.

-Joe

[VRT Man]

Joe, my favorite wild game meat is venison tenderloin, the very first meat I extract from a deer hunt. And cook it the same day for other members of my hunting party. They're absolutely mouth-watering delicious grilled in garlic and butter.

Back when he was young, Merv Griffin once admitted he was quite obese, and says he lost well over 100 lbs. on a "steak and salad" diet, which admittedly gave him the protein he needed, and the salads sufficed for the vegetation he needed.

Steak is good. I love steak. :good:

Greg Mangan

[tom]

The Buckhorn Restaurant, a great steakhouse from this area, is expanding to New York.

http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2009/10/12/story2.html

Their meat is good. The last time I had elk, bison, and boar.

I'm starting to think a person should eat as much red meat as they can, as long as it is organic, wild, or otherwise too expensive to buy too much of. But it's good quality. I am unscientifically concerned with the stuff they put in cows.

Tom

[MikeNY]

Steak & a salad delicious diet food. Sirloin steak well done for me and a nice salad. Grilled marinated chicken is also up there with steak.

[gruntbrain]

I wonder if hippie mafia at Whole Foods has a steak offering. Anyone up for steak Ted Nugent style( kill it then grill it) ?

[Focus]

And what about raw steak?
I have a restaurant - here in France - which cooks such a deliiiiicious steak tartare. How healthy is that???

[MikeNY]

Guys try a balanced breakfast; steak, eggs and a serving of hash browned potatos, with a cup coffee. Keep the serving of hashbrowns under control and have some fruit.

[gruntbrain]

Anyone for sardines?

[JoeJustice]

I love sadines. On topic as always, grunt. :tongue: Why start a thread on sardines when there is a perfectly good steak thread? :struggle:

Focus, rare is the healthiest way to eat steak. Raw fish is also vey healthy as long as it's good and fresh. Poltry and pork are both a little scary raw.

-Joe

[gruntbrain]

Joe
Again I apologize for my attempt at humor. Although I eat sardines several times a week, I know most folks are repulsed by 'em

[JoeJustice]

One of these days I'm going to shame you and Tom outta your thread jacking habits :shame: But I'm not going to hold my breath until that day comes.

Just for you:
http://www.transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29754

See how easy it is?

:tongue:
-Joe

[tom]

Sardines, the steak of the sea. I remember going out to one of the orchards several miles from the farm with a can of sardines and box of crackers. I irrigated and watched levees all day.

[JoeJustice]

I irrigated and watched levees all day.

Is that a euphemism for something?

-Joe
:tongue:

[tom]

No, son. It's called work.

It's like a stake out. It was a hot summer day and I'd try to stayc ool under the big walnut tree between rounds of walking the levees, opening and closing them with the shovel (a stake with a scoop on the end), watching for leaks caused by gophers, etc. It was a long, hard day. It's called work, son.

Sometimes at night we'd have steak, but it was only from the steers we raised on our pastures. Good stuff. Very good steak.

Stayc ool,
Tom

[JoeJustice]

Donna, do you think you're overly sensitive to due to your job? The immune system is pretty incredible. While I'll readily admit it doesn't take care of every disease, I do get the impression that you seem to think they body is totally incapable of taking care of itself without modern medicine.

People eat raw fish and rare steak all the time in the developed world and I don't think there's all that many cases of parasites. Look at how much raw fish they consume in Japan, they also have the longest living population. I wonder if there are any statistics about the amount of parasites in Japan relative to the rest of the world.

-Joe

[JoeJustice]

Same reason I'm not going to let a guy with the flu sneeze all over me but still don't take a bath in Clorox bleach. Some pathogens are more of a threat that others. Risks can be mitigated. People can go to far.

I do eat eggs over easy, they say that'll kill ya. Hasn't yet.

-Joe

[JoeJustice]

Wow, a parasite museum in Japan:

http://www.geobeats.com/videoclips/japan/tokyo/parasite-museum

Cool :)

FUN!

-Joe

[tom]

I was worried about parasites when I first got to Japan, sashimi, sushi, and all. Then some pointed out the obvious statistic of, out of the entire nation of Japan, we never saw any news of paraistes, and nobody heard of anyone personally or in the area getting parasites. It was explained to me that the fish is almost all deep sea fish with few if any parasites, and everything was flash frozen to an extremely low temperature. I quit worrying about it, but I still will only eat sushi from a proper sushi place.

Parasites are more common in freshwater, river fish. The best sashimi I've ever had was koi (fancy word for carp) up in the mountains at a friends bed and breakfast. I had it with ginger and onion. It was great. But, thinking about it later, I decided that was the last time I would ever eat fresh water sashimi.

One New Years party we were up in the mountains and the inn served a wide variety of foods for the dinner: noodle soup on an individual burner for each guest, sushi, sashimi, and deer and boar sasami. Sashimi is just raw fish - sasami is raw any other meat. Everybody was excited about the deer and boar. I was the only one that put mine in my soup to cook it.

Chicken sasami was the most common. I always turned that down.

I understand raw steak is the most digestible, but no thanks. I try to not burn or char meat, but I can't take it too red.

As for being worried about or trusting immune systems, unless my high school science (alchemy) fails me, that is irrelevant to the parasite issue. Parasites aren't viruses.

Tom

[JoeJustice]

As for being worried about or trusting immune systems, unless my high school science (alchemy) fails me, that is irrelevant to the parasite issue. Parasites aren't viruses.


The immune system attacks more than just viruses. It attacks all foreign invaders (that doesn't of course mean it always wins).

http://health.howstuffworks.com/immune-system.htm/printable

-Joe

P.S. The immune systems even attacks organs, that's why you get organ rejection after transplants if the match isn't similar enough.

[gruntbrain]

Raw liver anyone?

[tom]

According to:


http://health.howstuffworks.com/immu....htm/printable


immune system. It is designed to defend you against millions of bacteria, microbes, viruses, toxins and parasites that would love to invade your body.

I learn something new everyday.

Except yesterday. I knew everything yesterday

And Grunt, any kind of liver is just disgusting. My mommy tortured us with that. And to everybody who is going to write in a recipe that makes liver palatable, just Shut up! God, it's awful.

Tom

[gruntbrain]

Tom
Forget your taste buds, take a masculine utilitarian approach to eating & you too can get below 170#.

[tom]

Wa ha! ha! Rolling on the rofl loling! That is so funny. I know, Joe, we're men so you can't sass back now because she's a lady! I feel your pain, been there done that, been done that. We just gotta take it. Men's club and all that. Our tough luck. Man, that's funny.

Grunt, I can eat about anything except liver and goat's milk. Of the two, goat's milk is the worse - it physically won't stay down. Don't know why. Raised goats, loved goats, it would be perfect if I liked goat's milk. It's a mystery. As for liver, I just hate it even though I can physically eat it. But since I became an emancipated adult, never again.

Thank's for the 170# challenge slap. Those things help me. I'll do it without ever eating liver, by cracky.

Still rofloling.

Tom

[JoeJustice]

Really you can be such an ass sometimes. :)

That's the 6th time I'm heard that this week! It's like someone is trying to tell me something. Well, I'll work it out someday.

Buuuuuuttttt just to be clear, it's like Tom's example of Salmon vs. Carp. Can salmon have parasites? Yes, but it's not very common and you could most likely tell by the quality of the meat. Whereas carp is probably loaded with them.

Swine is the carp of the farm, or carp is the swine of the sea, not sure which one. They are far more likely to have something nasty in them than other meats. And birds carry bacteria that and viruses that have been known to mutate to humans easily. Red meat is more digestible raw and doesn't have the carcinogens you get from charring it.

Das all I'm saying.

-Joe

[tom]

You done good, Joe.

I've had some people tell me they could tell if the fish is good by looking at it. First of all, I doubt it. Second of all, I've seen many sushi's eaten and have never seen anyone pick the meat off the rice and check the underside.

But, as I said, I'll eat sushi at a proper sushi place. As Grunt has alluded to, and I saw some news thing recently too about it, more people get sick from spinach, eggs, 'n stuff lak dat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laK4in8DrU8

Tom

[Sam]

Joe, my favorite wild game meat is venison tenderloin, the very first meat I extract from a deer hunt. And cook it the same day for other members of my hunting party. They're absolutely mouth-watering delicious grilled in garlic and butter.


So true. I remember one time we hunted with with our cousins and we got a couple deer. We processed them ourselves rather than the butcher so we cut up our cousins' deer too. We start cutting out the tederloin and one of them said basically what's that and informed us that they had never cut those out before and just left them stay cause they weren't very big, etc!!!!!!!!!!