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Tink131
11-13-2008, 09:31 AM
Hi Guys,
I haven't posted much in quite a while- motivation has been a bit of a problem for me. And, as you all know, that's one thing that is difficult, if not down right impossible, to impart to someone. It's something you have to find for yourself. Well, I was reading something about things you can do to help make your dreams come true and the things we do that hinder them. One thing that really has helped me is not only to visualize what I want, but to FEEL it. One of the suggestions was to imagine it in your mind and with every objection your mind brings forth to just keep imagining until you've conquered the objection- then FEEL the results- imagine what it would FEEL like. So, not only to I visualize the body I want to achieve, but I imagine what it feels like- strong and healthy! That feeling has helped me to conquer whatever it was that was holding me back- so I just thought I'd share in case it might help someone else.

I also found this website with a plethora of videos demonstrating all kinds of bodyweight exercises! Bored with your routine? check this out!
http://bodyweighttrainingvideos.com/

Have a great day!
Tink

Andy62
11-13-2008, 10:05 AM
Motivation can be tough. Visualization is a great help. Also varying your routine to keep things different and more interesting can also help.

gruntbrain
11-13-2008, 10:47 AM
My neighbors in my Seniors Only community provide negative reinforcement; forum members can visualize folks who sit around on their wrinkled gray elephant apathies to receive similar reinforcement

VRT Man
11-13-2008, 01:35 PM
Hi Guys,
One thing that really has helped me is not only to visualize what I want, but to FEEL it. One of the suggestions was to imagine it in your mind and with every objection your mind brings forth to just keep imagining until you've conquered the objection- then FEEL the results- imagine what it would FEEL like.

An excellent insight here, Tink. In fact, many of our forum members who remember threads concerning the DVD called "The Secret" from two years ago, will recall that this concept is actually the real secret of success. "Man attracts what he or she thinks and feels about" or "becomes what he/she thinks & feels about." A time-honored concept of success, whatever the endeavor.

--Greg Mangan

Nathan
11-13-2008, 03:08 PM
Hey Tink,

I think you just need to do what ever will keep you motivated. Which even means sometimes taking a few days off. Anyway Tink Keep fighting the good fight and All the Best.

---Nathan

gruntbrain
11-13-2008, 03:09 PM
My senior mind continues to struggle with the Law of Attraction as being gospel as presented by the likes of Joe Vitale. Even JP has "attracted" scoundrels in his business dealings. However, I will concede that Secret-like practices are helpful & Tink's approach is sound.

revwally
11-13-2008, 03:24 PM
tink

thanks for the web site -- very helpful.

I think on has to be careful when talking about "the secret". Those that follow it have a tendency of turning themselves into their own little gods. It doesn't take seriously the sinful (broken, imperfect) reality of humanity.

Wally

Andy62
11-13-2008, 04:18 PM
The thing about The Secret, in my opinion, is that it also helps explain problem people as their thoughts precede their actions as well. It all goes back to Buddha, 500 years before Christ, who said,"what you think you become." The thoughts in our minds are constantly in the process of recreating us.

Tink131
11-13-2008, 07:26 PM
tink

thanks for the web site -- very helpful.

I think on has to be careful when talking about "the secret". Those that follow it have a tendency of turning themselves into their own little gods. It doesn't take seriously the sinful (broken, imperfect) reality of humanity.

Wally

You are most welcome for the website- glad you found it helpful, so did I. I don't know anything about "The Secret" but it sounds like there's some stuff discussed in there like what I was reading and that's why I didn't mention the title or the author. He goes way out there saying that you create your own reality and everything you see around you is a product of your thoughts. I believe that to some degree, but not to the degree this guy advocates- he goes so far as to say there are no absolutes, which I totally disagree with. But I've learned not to throw the baby out with the bath water and there was some good stuff in there to take away- Solomon did write: as a man thinketh in his heart so is he. That is in proverbs isn't it? But that's why I didn't mention the book cuz you could become your own god by taking what this guy has to say to heart.

Hi Donna! Glad to see you still around! :)

Tink131
11-13-2008, 07:35 PM
Thanks for the website. I usually use the forum for motivation. After reading about what everyone else is doing I am ready to workout!

Mike

Hey Mike,
Forums used to motivate me too, but then I threw myself into overtraining and injured my shoulder and also threw my hormones WAY out of whack- fun! My hair is still falling out at an alarming rate!! Fatigued was a major hurdle and then we've had some pretty tough life circumstances over the past year as well- it's just been really tough. I never used to have a problem with motivation, but this past year- wow! So when I found something that actually seemed to help, well, I thought I'd share. I know I'm not the only one who struggles with motivation. Heck, I could read about what everyone else was doing and feel worn out from it- LOL!!! :P

Big Bear
11-14-2008, 08:36 AM
Hi Tink!

So good to see you again!

Yeah motivation is a great issue(Andy and John have many great suggestions).

Lately I have really been into just being in the moment and keeping to my schedule.Doing this,even in times when I am less than psyched-i still touch on the wellspring-my breath and the present moment.Once in,it is easier and as the minutes shed themselves to another workout it gets easier and in many ways-deeper,more profound.

peace,
jason

revwally
11-14-2008, 08:41 AM
[QUOTE=Tink131;3180. I believe that to some degree, but not to the degree this guy advocates- he goes so far as to say there are no absolutes, which I totally disagree with. But I've learned not to throw the baby out with the bath water and there was some good stuff in there to take away- Solomon did write: as a man thinketh in his heart so is he. That is in proverbs isn't it? [/QUOTE]

Tink,

I would encourage the balance that you said.
The quote you give is Proverbs 23:7 -- from KJV here is the quote more at length " Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats: 7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee."

or in something more readable: "6 Do not eat the food of a stingy man, do not crave his delicacies;
7 for he is the kind of man who is always thinking about the cost. "Eat and drink," he says to you, but his heart is not with you." NIV

As you can see, it is encouraging you not to be influenced by negative folks. It is being ripped out of context by some people in order to elevate humanity above who we really are.

This balance I am encouraging is seen in Psalm 8

The mind is a powerful thing -- and how we think about ourselves and others can be very empowering.

Didn't mean to get this in to something this heavy -- just was reacting to "the secret" - which (at least on my quick perusal of the book) did go beyond the point of the balance of who we are and to the point of deifying humanity.

wally

Andy62
11-14-2008, 10:12 AM
I guess I just look at Christianity differently. I look at The Secret as being totally compatible and just a different way of stating the same principles. In my opinion The secret is just an updated version of Dr. Norman Vincent Peale's classic "The Power Of Positive Thinking." If jesus was teaching all things are possible if you can only believe and that the power of belief can move mountains how is it possible to overstate the power that God has given to each of us? The problem with all forms of religion is that they tend to be politicized by power seeking leaders who wish to use them to control masses of people. Jesus came to save us from our sins,but he also came to save us from the control of political entitles and show us how they were claiming control of the power that God put in all of us so we could control our lives individually. Jesus just said [paraphrased]"you don't need a broker and you can go directly to the source yourself and do it alone in your own room out of the reach of the would be controllers." The Romans actually bought the clergy of Jesus' time to control the masses. If you look at some of the archaeological research revealed on the History Channel the priests of Jesus' era were living in palatial luxury. I think it is very simple and very profound and I am not talking about anybody becoming or thinking they are God. If the kingdom of God is within and we were created in the image of God then he intended us to use the power that he gave us to" live life more abundantly."

gruntbrain
11-14-2008, 02:21 PM
There's too many "unknowables" to formulate theorems like the Law of Attraction explains everything.
I suppose believers & non believers can be on the same side of this debate( God's will & random events)

Huskerdarren
11-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Wow, that is one heckuva long list of body weight exercies. I'll need to bookmark it. Pierini even has a few of his Youtube videos up.

I've been meaning to ask if anyone is familar with Steve Cotter. He has a DVD out that I'm thinking of buying. It shows him performing over 100 BW exercises. He has a great build. I think he's big into kettebells too.

Tink131
11-14-2008, 07:25 PM
Wow Wally, thanks for putting that in context!! I have been a student of the Bible for many years and not only did I miss that, but have been taught it wrong this whole time! So what he's saying is- don't listen to what comes out of this guy's mouth, that's not who a person really is. Who a person REALLY is is what he thinks in his heart! Wow- that's a whole other ball of wax isn't it?!

That reminds me of another verse that's alway taught out of context- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Phil 4:13
What Paul was saying was that he had learned to be content whether living in plenty or in want- so he had learned that he could do those things, even living in poverty through the strength that Christ imparts.

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out!
Tink

JoeJustice
11-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Whoa! It's getting pretty heaving in here! :hammer:

-Joe :)

VRT Man
11-14-2008, 10:25 PM
Anyway, Tink, my bad for misdirecting this thread.

Faith is surely a subject that is very individual, very much a part of the deepest part of our souls. I believe in the harmony of science and religion. Though to most those two subjects appear to be complete opposites, I however believe God's truth is surely in all things from our deepest thoughts to the farthest galaxy. Both biblical and scientific truths are in complete harmony. One must only look for it.

I am glad to hear you are motivated! Keep thinking and feeling positive! My best workouts arrive from this, my best life results too.

--Greg Mangan

Tink131
11-15-2008, 08:15 AM
Hi Greg,
I'm not sure we ever interacted before...??? Nice to meecha! I don't think you hijacked or misdirected this thread at all! The whole thing is about motivation so we can achieve some results or success in an area of choice. I thought what you said fit right in! Even the Bible verses fit too because people use those two (specifically) for trying to achieve and/or change things in their lives. I agree it is a very personal journey, faith. We can even get off onto the subject of predestination and free will as related to this discussion- I know a man who is tremendously overweight and says he can't help it because God made him that way! :dazed: But I'll stop right there and just say that I think most of us here believe that we have to take responsibility for our health and fitness- it's hard work going against the tsunami of obesity and disease that is sweeping our nation!

Thanks for your input! It's always welcomed!!
Tink

gruntbrain
11-15-2008, 08:23 AM
It's interesting to speculate about how much control we have over our health. I'd guess at least 85%; the other 15% or so is perhaps genetics & random events(good or bad)

Tink131
11-15-2008, 08:30 AM
Interesting indeed Grunt! I just hate the thought of that 15% wiping out all the hard work I have invested- but it happens. But a strong body is going to recover quicker, and all the discipline used to achieve our results will help in overcoming whatever might come our way- if not physically, then emotionally, mentally and spiritually!

Burns
11-15-2008, 08:57 AM
Hi Tink,

Thanks for the link. I agree that just viewing exercise videos can be motivating. I do not post much, but I enjoy reading about members posts on exercise here and on other forums. My problem is I probably spend as much time reading as I do exercising. But if it keeps one motivated, I guess it isn't too bad of a vice. One of my favorite sites for motivation is the 20 minute fitness solution by Joel Ellis.

http://www.fitness-solution.blogspot.com/

Time to go exercise, then I'll watch a couple more of your videos.

Bob

Big Bear
11-15-2008, 09:07 AM
Great points Greg,Bob,grunt and Tink!

It is true about what we do and do not have control of.We all know people that seemed to live extraordinary healthy lives but then died early due to cancer or a genetic illness(like one of my great teachers).

But,thank goodness we can enjoy this moment and this mini-vision quest(workout)!

rainy up here today,great day for working out,writing,then curling by the fire to read!

peace,
jason

dynogoalie30
11-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Hi Tink, Great to hear from you and thanks for the website, hope everything is going well for you and your family, sometimes I get a little problem with motivation, then I sit for a minute and say I gotta do something, even if is is only a 20 minute workout, just to get moving, looking foreward to some more of your posts, and Im glad just like everyone else your back, take care.

Tink131
11-17-2008, 05:48 PM
Thanks Dyno! I do sometimes feel a bit out of place here with it being almost all men, but there's really not much out there for women- or just women anyway, and especially bodyweight stuff.

Hey Bob, that's a pretty good website too! Some reallygood ideas. Thanks.