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Andy62
11-22-2008, 08:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/22/malaysia.yoga.banned.ap/index.html
Andy62
11-22-2008, 08:54 PM
I agree. It all becomes politicized and a power grab.
JoeJustice
11-22-2008, 09:52 PM
Tom,
Why bother helping people when it's more fun to stare down your nose at them and say, "You're doing it all wrong. And I got all the right answers."
Seems Jesus dealt with some folks who were like that, but I digress...
-Joe
MikeNY
11-22-2008, 10:04 PM
Strange Arabic Historians also claim that Yoga is a copy and lifted and taken directly from the Muslim Sufi. And that might well be true, and the Sufi do practice many similar things to the Yogi's. I see Yoga just as a means of exercise and meditation, never saw a religious element there.
Much better ways to spend your time, world peace, hunger among children just a few.
Andy62
11-22-2008, 10:21 PM
Mike, They don't want to approve of anything that they don't control
I don't see the problem with the Article at all. It speaks a lot of truth and is not written at all for someone who is not a Muslim ( I am not ).
Why is it that people feel they need to speak up against someone who is simply speaking for his faith. It has nothing to do with the person who is not a Muslim. And give me a break already, Yoga doesn't have it's roots in religion, cmon get a grip.
Those people who say it doesn't have it's roots in religion are just selling a bag of goods, I'm not telling you not to practice it, and I think it's great for the body. But don't lie about it. I'm a bible believing christian and I've looked at Yoga for a long time and you can't fool me into thinking it contradicts the God of the Bible's teaching. But I'm not telling you not to do it.... (Yes, I know it has great health benefits, but it's not for me)
Just because a religious leader speaks up on something it seems that people come out of the woodwork and complain (those that are not part of his particular faith ) and scream about just go help the poor, or go do some good deeds. You know... he probably is doing that, and probably more than the people who are complaining.
So does he not have the right to intelligently voice his opinion?
(okay... sorry about the rant, I don't usually do that...)
-J
revwally
11-23-2008, 03:15 PM
from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga
Yoga (Sanskrit: योग, IAST: yóga, IPA: [joːgə]) refers to traditional physical and mental disciplines originating in India; to the goal achieved by those disciplines; and to one of the six orthodox (āstika) schools of Hindu philosophy.[1][2]
Major branches of yoga include Raja Yoga, Karma Yoga, Jnana Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Hatha Yoga.[3][4][5] Raja Yoga, compiled in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, and known simply as yoga in the context of Hindu philosophy, is part of the Samkhya tradition.[6] Many other Hindu texts discuss aspects of yoga, including the Vedas, Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Hatha Yoga Pradipika, the Shiva Samhita and various Tantras.
The Sanskrit word yoga has many meanings,[7] and is derived from the Sanskrit root yuj, meaning "to control", "to yoke" or "to unite".[8] Translations include "joining", "uniting", "union", "conjunction", and "means".[9][10][11] Outside India, the term yoga is typically associated with Hatha Yoga and its asanas (postures) or as a form of exercise. A practitioner of Yoga is called a Yogi (gender neutral) or Yogini (feminine form).
MY COMMENTARY
For some of you, you have taken the disciplines of yoga (westernized), and applied them to yourself. You have also taken and emphasized the physical aspects. In other words, you have taken the religious content out of yoga.
Meditation of various forms can be found in all religious traditions. For Christians, you can look at the monastic tradition, as well as the desert (as in place, not part of a meal :drool:) fathers. Classic yoga uses the names of deities (gods) within the Hindu faith as part of the meditation, or some other aspect of the Hindu faith. So...I would not endorse a Christian practicing classical yoga either. What most of you mean by yoga is not following the religious tradition.
It makes complete sense that the Muslim clerics would tell their people not to practice yoga.
I have many other problems with Islam:
1. persecution of Christians (if you are a martyr of the Christian Church, you have most likely died within the last 100 years -- contact Voice of the Martyrs for more info).
2. Lack of real financial support of their own -- and then using that situation for political purposes (the greatest humanitarian contributors to the Palestinians is US -- and almost none comes from the Islamic world).
3. The HISTORIC use of the sword for conversion (Yes, Mohamed did convert people at the end of the sword -- and that is still used today).
4. The list can go on and on....but I think you get the point.
wally
revwally
11-24-2008, 12:18 AM
Zenon,
Kind of what I was saying as far as people here are concerned.
The emphasis here on those things is not within the spiritual realm (for the most part).
wally
I hope nobody took what i said the wrong way.
I said world leaders of religions. Not islam. I have nothing against anyone. I think all relegious leaders nned to take a step back to see where they came from and where they are now. they have been mislead a little bit(some of them).
and i am not antin religion either.
My opion was/is.... yoga should be the least of there concern
Hey gtlaau,
Can you give some specific references, or a specific leaders, who have been mislead etc... I'm finding it hard to understand exactlly what you mean?
thanks
-J
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