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armorplated
05-03-2010, 02:47 AM
ive noticed when i am able to post regularly i dont read much about DSR's other than the milo which truly is a wonderful exercise.
so i was wondering does anyone truly do DSR's anymore or does most of us stick to a healthy diet of cals. so chime in..... even the cool kids......and lets see is cals the champ or is it DSR's.
blackbelt
05-03-2010, 07:00 AM
It's funny you should bring this up.
For a looooong time, my tendency was towards DVR’s as opposed to DSR’s. The main, if not only reason, was that I could work two limbs simultaneously.
But, lately I’ve been performing a small set of DSR’s in the morning, just before my quiet time. They’ve proven to be a good way to clear the cob-webs in my head first thing in the morning.
DSR’s are a good way to get the blood pumping, with a little bit less focus needed.
MikeNY
05-03-2010, 09:04 AM
I like DSRs and always did. Cals are great and you can balance them with DSRs, DVR/VRT, Isometric Powerflexing. Bernarr Macfadden was into DSRs and I think he was right on target, man was ahead of his time in so many ways. DSRs are where DVR/VRT meets Cals and they maybe old school but they still work. Greg has mentioned DSRs to a few times, hope he joins in. Back in the 60s and 70's guy would do the Commander Set, Dynaflex or Atlas DSRs with one set, 10 reps, old school but it still works. A simple curl DSR just makes sense.
I did a great set of DSR leg extensions and leg curls the other day and finally "got it" with these exercises. I understood the DSR and DVRs for arms more easily, but still working on these ways of exercising with the legs and how exactly to engage the muscles with that mind-muscle connection.
Justin98
05-03-2010, 02:47 PM
I think DSR's and DVR's are great. A lot of times, I don't have the time to, or I just don't feel the energy to do calistenics, so I might go days at a time doing very few to no calistenics. The thing with DSR's and DVR's is that you must know how to do them. A lot of times, I purposly don't count my reps. This way, I quit when I feel I am thuroly worn out. Concentrate on flexing the muscle and go slow if you need to. If necessary, use your own form as long as you can tell it is working. If you do this, DVR's and DSR's can give you an awsome workout.:good:
Andy62
05-03-2010, 02:58 PM
Both DSRs and DVRs are great exercises. With DSRs you are limnited to a fewer number of exercises though. Cals are good - particularly pushups. In my opinion the advantage that DVR/VRT, DSRs, Isometrics, and Isometric Power Flexing have over cals is their Yogic features of "inner concentration" and "moving meditation." They project vital force right to the center of the mind where they can alter your autonomic nervous system and over ride earlier programing.
Greg Newton
05-03-2010, 04:38 PM
Funny you should mention DSR's. I am starting to do a set of classic Atlas DSR's after my calisthenics, alternating days with Isometric work. I need to start posting my workouts again. For the most part I tend to prefer DSR's to DVR's, although I think both are great. Doing the Atlas or Forystek or Peterson DSR's for high repetitions enhances deep breathing, brings blood to the muscles, and creates a certain look on top of calisthenics that is hard to beat.
This a picture from before I started the G.U.T.S. program. I spent six weeks on the advanced levels of Jim Forestek's Powerflex program. I'd do 100 consecutive pushups, 100 Atlas situps and then a variety of the DSR exercises.
Greg
MikeNY
05-03-2010, 05:08 PM
I'm in the same camp as Gordon love VRT/DVR, DSRs, Isometric Powerflexing, Isometrics; and even love cals. Big Jim and JP in Powerflex (page 15 & 20) and the M7 course (page 74 training memo) cracked the secret of the ages; adding dynamic tension to Atlas cals. If Atlas had thought of this his system would have been perfect. I see Isometric Powerflexing as a version of the DVR/VRT a moving Isometric, and see DSRs are a close fraternal twin, all in the Isometric family. I even like the Commander Set of Isometrics and count them as part of that family.
The Third world needs the bronzebow family of health systems and the modern world needs the reality based exercises, the world is about to get a lot poorer, and these methods are the best.
armorplated
05-04-2010, 01:37 PM
great imput guys. glad to see were not goin on fad crazies. i love cals their just plan fun to me...but DSR/DVR, in my oponion, are wonderful for energy and keeps the blood pumping bring nutrients to the muscles. this is especially important for those trying to gain muscle mass, even those of us trying to lose that little somethin extra. i personally like to try to do atleast 3 sets of DSR's twice a week per muscle. and often times ill do a complet set of DVR's before leaving the house in the morning after my 5 sets of pushups.
i noticed a few of you are still doin iso's i need to get back into them, currently i just end my DSR's with a iso at all three positions.
thanks for posting guys
jonlclay
05-04-2010, 09:27 PM
I believe DSR/DVR/ISO are some of the best exercises as they strengthen the entire structure, ligaments, tendons and muscles. Most exercises don't do this as well as these types of exercises. If one wants to ensure lifelong health, building the whole body structure from inside out is the best way and DSR/DVR/ISO are the most efficient way possible.
Jon
Greg,
you look ... well ... AWESOME!!
Jan
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