Push up stands v Warrior Power T's & use of Resistance Bands

[truth42day]

I'm trying to weigh my options. There are a couple of items I'd like to aquire but have some concerns due to my lower back.

I have been looking at Push Up Bars recently. I have a set of the Perfect Push Up which I use quite often, but was looking for something w/more height/range. I saw a set but really don't want to support some of what this individual is supporting, so I've been considering the Warrior Power T's. They sound & look tough, but here's my concern....will the T's put too much strain on my back? I've been doing on the average over 200 pushups a day which is probably closer to 300 incorporting at least 100 Atlas raised and regular push ups in the mix. Can anyone give me their thoughts on this?

I also like to know if anyone has been incorporating resistance bands into thier routines, specifically in place of pull ups and chin ups which just do my elbows in almost as soon as I start trying to crank out a bunch (even after resting?). Any thoughts, advise, experience would be appreciated.

Oh and one final thought.....I love PYTP and eventually settled on push ups as the backbone of my attempts to get back into shape and build a body I can be proud of. I keep sensing the encouragement of the Lord to continue in my workouts as I've become convinced it's doing more than just physical accomplishments....so, although PYTP has a bunch of Isometric exercises it still isn't the predominant focus....would you guys recommend John's Ulitmate Isometric Power Challenge, or should I just wait for his new book on push ups? Thank you one and all and may you all have the most Blessed Christmas ever as we all focus on what is really important and real. Tom

[tom]

I have both books. They are each a standalone book. Or, with both, you have two. Gosh, I'm brilliant.

To see which other apparatus you would like, try them out first with similar home-made versions. I sometimes indulge my gadget attraction.

It sounds like you are on the right track for yourself. Enjoy it.

Tom

[Greg Newton]

Hi Tom,

I haven't had any experience with resistance bands, so I couldn't say. I like the Tee's, but I am not sure you can compare them to pushups done with the Perfect Pushup or Atlas pushups. They are very different, but they've become my personal preference. You won't be doing high rep sets with them at first.

As far as the chins and pullups, I wouldn't worry about them. In the original Atlas course they weren't included. If you can master the Atlas one leg pullup, which requires a great of mental focus, you can build the biceps and latisimus dorsi without chins. VRT/DVR chins and pullups are also good. I have long standing tendonitis in my right elbow. It never quite goes away, and chinning or pulling aggravates it, so I don't do them.

As far as John's books, that is a personal choice. I have had several copies of all of them. I also have a tendency to buy them and give them away. I refer to them often and still discover something new every time I peruse them. Currently I do isometrics in my workouts alternated with VRT/DVR. The variety makes things interesting to me. I am sure the pushup book will be just as good as the others, but since I like physical culture books and enjoy John's writings I have all of them. But, once again, that is my preference.

[John Peterson]

hey Truth42day,

It's great to have you with us. And thank you for the kind words.

Since I don't know the nature of your back injury I can't really comment on how appropriate or inappropriate the Warrior Power T's would actually be. However, it may be that due to the 'Isometric Stabilization' of the core muscles that is absolutely a requirement when using them that they may actually help to heal your back. Once again, I don't know that to be the case but it might be. Anyway, I hope my other friends that use the "T's" will share their experiences.

---John Peterson

[truth42day]

Bear with me as I'm learing how to use threads and all sorts of things. Thank you Tom for your humor as well as the suggestion to use my noggin in trying to invent some of my own stuff.....never considered it before. I also want to thank John as well for your insight on the Power T's. I've really liked the daily emails and encouragement and they've kept me at it when I haven't wanted to keep at it. I also appreciate your candor and frankness re: purity and the internet....took guts and for that my hats off. I'm very glad I was led to this site and I will be buying the Power T's at some time as I believe the advise you gave is right on. The reason I say this is because w/each flare up that's required a Dr's visit they've always sent me to P/T to strengthen the area (it's a HNP) w/the actual Neurosurgeon indicating if that doesn't work then surgery is the other option. To date P/T exercises have helped and frankly since starting to get in shape about 7-8 mos ago my back episodes have decreased SIGNIFICANTLY. Thank you again for you time, expertise, and fantastic encouragement. I will be sharing this site w/the other men in our fellowship who are trying to get into shape as well.

[truth42day]

[QUOTE=Greg Newton;6091]Hi Tom,

I haven't had any experience with resistance bands, so I couldn't say. I like the Tee's, but I am not sure you can compare them to pushups done with the Perfect Pushup or Atlas pushups. They are very different, but they've become my personal preference. You won't be doing high rep sets with them at first.

As far as the chins and pullups, I wouldn't worry about them. In the original Atlas course they weren't included. If you can master the Atlas one leg pullup, which requires a great of mental focus, you can build the biceps and latisimus dorsi without chins. VRT/DVR chins and pullups are also good. I have long standing tendonitis in my right elbow. It never quite goes away, and chinning or pulling aggravates it, so I don't do them.

Thank you very much to your time & for sharing from your experiences. I will look into the VRT/DVR exercised in PYTP again and this time try to "really" incorporate them as well as try to find the Atlas one leg pullup. I know I read about it in the books but I've seen on a lot of the posts a lot of the participants use DVR/VRT and I've got to be honest I've found the execises to be quite exhausting so I haven't kept at it or taken to it probably like I should. Again thank you for the encouragement

[omad0n]

Howdy and welcome,

Well you sound a bit like me, in as much as you like pushups to be your foundation. I've been doing that for a while now with wonderful steady results. I can't really comment on if you should wait for the new book or not. Unfortunately there's no time frame on it as of yet, so we're all sorta waiting. That being said I will be one of the first to happily order it once it's available. I think that the T's might be a bit hard on your back, depending on where the pain is. I have my own pair, and just started messing with them about 2 weeks ago now. I strongly recommend them for their abilities to intensify training. I think they've been of great benefit. I am also a rock climber, but I haven't gotten to a point yet where I'm doing enough on the T's to notice grip strength difference. It's more my overall body. If you do a search of the forums (there's a bar at the top with it) you can search on the T's. I and several others have been doign a good bit of work with them. Hope this helped a bit, and good luck in your search. Feel free to post here or PM me if you've other questions.

[gruntbrain]

Rope or adjustable webing handles can be suspended from a chinup bar. Adjust the handle height to adjust the difficulty( beginner to advanced) of pushups & bodyrows

Note there are several commercially available suspension units but you can "easily roll your own"

[tom]

the Atlas one leg pullup

Huh? Is that a typo? Is this the first time I've heard of this, or just the first time thinking how funny it sounds?

Any relation to the one arm squat?:dazed:

Probably related to my own invention - the no brain thought.

Tom

[Greg Newton]

That is pretty funny Tom! How about calling it the Atlas one leg deadlift? Or maybe Atlas lat pull? I know Jim Forystek gets flak for the animal names, but I think he calls it the horseflex. This is the one where you grasp the thigh and pull with biceps, lats, and lumbars as you resist with the leg and hip. I do these fairly often and I'll opt for a simpler, to the point name to describe them. We can create history right here by a new designation we decide for this exercise.

P.S. I miss the old set of smileys we had. I can't get used to these new ones!