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Do_Your_Worst_Fast_and_First
12-25-2010, 04:40 AM
Hey Larry

When I was watching your First Shot DVD the part where you showing how to take a firearm away from someone who is holding it with 2 hands you said "You will never see us doing a weaver stance".So I wondered is there a SSS shooting system that is unique like your unarmed techniques?If there is are you going to make a DVD on this subject?I have been taught the Cooper method and have always seen some errors in it.Thanks for SSS and finding time in your busy life to read this.

Larry Wick
01-06-2011, 02:37 AM
Hi All,

I have been trying to post on the forum and I keep loosing it. I am starting to get upset. I have attempted it twice today for about an hour. Lets see if this makes it. Larry

tom
01-06-2011, 07:58 PM
I understand your frustration.

In this case, against a computer screen, I believe either the Weaver or the Cooper stance would be equally effective.

Tom

Do_Your_Worst_Fast_and_First
01-08-2011, 11:31 AM
Looks like you got it Larry. Tom Cooper taught the Weaver stance.....not sure if you meant the isosceles stance or some other stance.

MikeNY
01-20-2011, 12:38 PM
There are Classic books on gunfighting like "Six Guns" by Elmer Keith and many other books. They teach tried and true methods of gunfighting. Once the FBI used these methods and were the best gunfighters in the USA, they moved to more modern methods and thier skill went out the door. Research what was the best.

PS: Look at "Shooting to Live" by Fairbairn and Sykes, Pre-WWII book but still a classic. You might be able to find in new in a used bookstore for a very low price.

Larry Wick
01-30-2011, 06:38 PM
Hi All,


I hope that everyone is in good health and spirit!!!! Been doing alot of traveling and teachng and working on alot of projects as of late. It looks like Ihave a couple of weeks without to much happening, giving me a time to rest oand spend some time on the forum. When using a firearm at close range we never forcus on any type of stance. Most of the time we never bring the gun up, unless the plan is to use the power blast and concushion to stop an attacker instead of a bullet. The person that is trained in SSS will be taught to find center mark with the gun at his hip. It is much faster tio move the hip than to swing the upper body and arms. A focus is not needed as the gun is part of the eye. Once the center is found and you must practice very hard and with alot of shooting or a mounted lazer you will find out how effective and fastt you are at close range. In SSS we are always moving, and that includes a knife or firearm. Remember in SSS we train for that extra tenth of a second to respond effectively. That can be the difference between life and death. I almost forgot, in taking a long distance shot we do use a weaver or other stance. To all be safe, your friend, Larry

Do_Your_Worst_Fast_and_First
01-30-2011, 07:54 PM
Hi All,


I hope that everyone is in good health and spirit!!!! Been doing alot of traveling and teachng and working on alot of projects as of late. It looks like Ihave a couple of weeks without to much happening, giving me a time to rest oand spend some time on the forum. When using a firearm at close range we never forcus on any type of stance. Most of the time we never bring the gun up, unless the plan is to use the power blast and concushion to stop an attacker instead of a bullet. The person that is trained in SSS will be taught to find center mark with the gun at his hip. It is much faster tio move the hip than to swing the upper body and arms. A focus is not needed as the gun is part of the eye. Once the center is found and you must practice very hard and with alot of shooting or a mounted lazer you will find out how effective and fastt you are at close range. In SSS we are always moving, and that includes a knife or firearm. Remember in SSS we train for that extra tenth of a second to respond effectively. That can be the difference between life and death. I almost forgot, in taking a long distance shot we do use a weaver or other stance. To all be safe, your friend, Larry

Downloaded a kindle or whatever it is called of shooting to live from amazon.com it sounds like the same thing with the hip that you were talking about.Will try some of it next time I goto the range.Thanks all

Larry Wick
01-30-2011, 08:07 PM
Hi All,


One of the high level drills that is practiced is that you have six bullets, twelve attackers with knifes. You have a knife in the other hand. Your attackers will attack any way they wish, you must use your blade and firearm. The goal is to always keep the firearm against the hip while defending with the blade. Only fire when absolutely needed to survive. It is a skill that teaches the weapon to remain in place while using to types of weapons independentlly. It is a tough skilll to learn, but as you train your thought will be less on focus but on no thought reflex. Be safe, Larry

Greg Newton
01-31-2011, 03:51 AM
Ha Larry,

This one really caught my eye. That is a hardcore survival drill. You and your advance students don't play do you? But, this is real world stuff, not art.

This reminds me of post WWII film noir, where you saw a different type of choreographed fight scene. You saw chops, stomps, and knees to incapacitating parts of the body; in other words brutality. Many of the guys making these movies had done their time overseas and knew what real combat was like. On screen we got a little taste of it.

All the best,

Greg