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Alan_OldStudent
12-26-2008, 02:39 AM
Hello Brothers and Sisters
Victor Jara was a famous Chilean musician and folksinger with an inspiring personal history.
He was born in 1932 in a small, very poor village, into a large family of peasants. Victor's father was illiterate and refused to send his children to school. Instead, he sent his children to work in the fields at age 6, not believing in the value of education.
Victor's father could not earn enough money, even with his children working, to support his family, and he fell into a cycle of depression, despair, alcoholism, and violence. He eventually abandoned the family.
With Victor's father gone, Victor's mother Amanda worked to support the family and encouraged the children to learn to read and become educated. But she died when Victor was 15, leaving him and the other children with no parents.
Victor studied accountancy and then studied for the priesthood. None of that suited, so he joined the Army. After his enlistment, he became a musician, and he developed a remarkable guitar playing style and beautiful singing voice, wrote many beautiful songs and became well known as a folksinger.
Because he was so talented and bright and had such a remarkable personal story, he gained much fame throughout Latin America and even Europe. He became friends with many of leading contemporary intellectuals, poets, and artists of Chile and all Latin America.
It was during this time that a remarkable thing happened. An open socialist was elected president of Chile.
Salvador Allende, a socialist, had run for president of Chile several times since the 1950s, and finally, in 1970, he won the election. Social change was in the air.
However, President Nixon decided on a covert "regime change." So three years later, the Chilean military staged a coup, with the backing, assistance, and blessing of the CIA, Henry Kissinger, and President Richard Nixon. They installed the murderous dictator Agosto Pinochet in place of the democratically-elected Allende.
The military kidnapped thousands of Chileans, clergy, social activists, students, dissidents, or even people turned in by neighbors as a result of personal squabbles. These kidnapped were taken to the central stadium, which was closed to outside view, where the military systematically tortured and murdered the kidnap victims.
Among the first that they kidnapped was Victor Jara. Other prisoners who witnessed his execution said that the guards stomped on his hands while he was lying on the ground in the center of the stadium, breaking the bones of his hands. They then taunted him to perform one of his songs. Of course, he could not play the guitar, but they executed him as he defiantly sang one of his protest songs.
Today, Victor is recognized as one of Chile and Latin America's foremost composers and poets. Most of the recordings and manuscripts of his music were destroyed by the Pinochet regime, but a sizable fraction of it still exists.
My following message will have a Youtube video of him singing one of his most famous songs, "Te Recuerdo, Amanda" (I Do Remember You, Amanda).
Regards,
Alan
Alan_OldStudent
12-26-2008, 02:41 AM
Te Recuerdo Amanda
This title means, "I Do Remember You, Amanda."
Victor's mother's name was Amanda, but this song is about another young woman named Amanda who eagerly waits for the shift-break whisle to blow at the factory so she can spend 5 minutes with her lover Manuel, who works there. But when the whistle blows, the scene is attacked by the police and Manuel dies.
This is my rough translation of the few comments Victor makes before singing this strangely moving and lovely song.
Opening Comments:
This song is called "Te Recuerdo, Amanda," and it is a song that tells of love, of two young people, two young people of typical of today, who at times do not realize what they need to have in their hearts, of two young people of no particular factory, no particular city, who could be any place on our continent.
Here is my rough translation of the song lyrics. Unfortunately, I am not poetic enough to put into English the power of the original Spanish, but I tried to capture the flavor of it.
Yes, I do remember you Amanda,
Standing in the puddle-filled street,
running to the factory,
where Manuel was working
A broad smile stretching across your face
While rain water ran in your hair
Nothing was important now,
Now that you were going to meet with
To hold hands with, to stand with, to be with him.
It had been just five minutes
But five long minutes,
A life of eternity for five minutes
The shift-whistle had blown for shift break.
And you, walking, now understanding all---everything
In those five minutes that blossomed forth
Oh yes, I do remember you, Amanda,
You, in the soaking wet street,
Running at the factory
Where Manuel used to work
That broad smile stretching across your face
With all that rain running down your hair
How nothing mattered any more
Because you were going to meet.
With him, be with him, to touch him.
He who had left the Sierras.
He who had never harmed anyone
Yes, he who had left the Sierras
And in that five minutes
They simply wiped all that out.
Yes, the shift-change whistle had blown once more.
But many did not return to finish work.
Manuel did not return to finish work
Oh yes, I do remember you, Amanda
That puddly muddy street
Running to the factory.
Where Manuel used to work.
The Video
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Regards,
Alan
MikeNY
12-26-2008, 07:30 AM
Beautiful song Alan!
Alan_OldStudent
12-26-2008, 01:12 PM
Beautiful song Alan!
I'd thought that Salvador Allende was using Death Squads and Secret Police terror to suppress enemies and had started the oppression prior to the Coup; a Chilean friend has talked about that and the horror of the Military Dictatorship. The real issue is not which side does the oppression it is the terror and victims that suffer, the World would be a better place if music and kindness abounded and no one was a victim. Victor Jara and all the other victims all over the world deserve better.
Hi Mike,
Allende certainly did not usher in a "worker's paradise," to use Stalin's vulgar and discredited term. And there were social problems, economic woes, etc. Wikipedia has a pretty good article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende) on Allende.
Having said that, I did help some American doctors treating some Spanish-speaking-only Chileans who came to the US after the coup. I got the feeling that the real dictatorial police-state methods came in with Pinochet. Of course, in many democracies, including ours, there are black-ops police and military units. But I don't have knowledge of those in Allende's Chile.
Regards,
Alan
Andy62
12-26-2008, 01:20 PM
Without getting into this or anyother specific situation; if most people in the general public had any idea of what goes on in these international power games they would not be able to deal with it. The ruthlessness is beyond human belief as is the complexity of planning and execution. Games as equally complex as the Kennedy assassination are more the norm than the exception.
MikeNY
12-26-2008, 04:22 PM
My friend Mohammed returned to Iran after grad school. He hated the Shah and repression, he was murdered by the Mullahs when they exterminated the Western oritented Intellectuals for the crime of having a MBA and a second Master's degree. He was left handed and a US College grad; I got a letter written by a right handed illiterate; purporting to be Mohammed. I knew when I saw that letter Mo was dead. Word filtered out of Iran to Iranian friend's that Mohammed was executed. Iranian friends said the Secret Police sent the letter to stop me from asking what happened to Mo; as disinformation. All terror is wrong.
Andy62
12-26-2008, 10:13 PM
Unfortunately violence is an equal opportunity tactic- it is available to Communists, Fascists,and numerous other groups. If you get out of some of the protected societies in the world it is very prevalent.
MikeNY
12-26-2008, 10:13 PM
Alan someone passed this article on to me; http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6FD2775C-F4FD-4414-A3E4-FF46B4B16505
The bottom of the article notes that the information used was taken from this source to quote the author " *(All above quotes and incidents are fully documented in La Agresion Del Oso; Intervencion Sovietica y Cubana en Chile by Gonzalo Rojas Sanches, a Fullbright Scholar and visiting professor at Notre Dame who heads the History Department at Chile's Catholic University.) "
Alan_OldStudent
12-27-2008, 12:12 AM
Alan I'm not an expert of the Terror is Chile; just had a Chilean friend, and her family and Chilean friends talked about the Terror. They'd fled to the USA; thought both Left/Right Death squads had murdered relentlessly, tortured, raped, stole land and destroyed lives. That Salvador Allende was a Communist and Agosto Pinochet a Fascist; both were murdering swine. I'd guess the majority of innocents are always the victims when dealing with the exteme. They'd lost family and friends to both sides it seemed, there wasn't a good word for either side. ............
Hi Mike,
I really started this thread to tell a story of a poet, ...a man I admire very much,
...a man of great personal courage,
...a man who achieved much despite huge odds, grinding poverty, and
...a man who wrote such beautiful music and such haunting poetry.It was also meant to present one of this man's more magical song-poems. But this thread was not meant to be a foil to defend Allende.
During times like these, I draw inspiration from courageous people, from poetry, from music.
Later, I'll post a link to a piece of music I composed.
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Like you, I'm not an expert of, as you term it, the "terror in Chile" either.
But I do understand, speak, and read Spanish. And I do not remember reading about "left wing death squads" in either English or Spanish during that time. (Of course, that does not mean there were no left-wing death squads.). I can tell you, however, that I found no shortage of anticommunist hysteria and tall tales being told by the partisans of the super-wealthy elite minority at the time.
As I recall from my reading, Allende's desire to nationalize the banks and major industries, especially the copper mining industry, enraged Nixon and his cohorts. It was not human rights abuses, not "left-wing death squads."
Oh no! Nixon was not complaining of "leftist death squads." He was complaining of land redistribution to poor peasants like Jara's family. He tantrumed over Allende seizing the assets of his class buddies, the wealthy Chilean copper-mine owners, whose lavish lifestyle depended on virtual slave labor and the grinding poverty of the majority. He had hissy-fits over the month-long vacation that Fidel Castro took in Chile.
To Nixon and Kissinger, the reason for overthrowing Allende was about control of marketplaces and resources on a world scale, not the fate of the ordinary Chilean. Chile was part of a world-wide campaign of economic control and opposition to the influence of the other superpower, the Soviet Union. As far as the Nixon gang were concerned, the popular will was irrelevant! They did not care a fig about any real or imaginary "leftist death squads."
Profit margins and corporate world-wide domination of markets, labor, and natural resources were all mattered to them--just as with their political descendents today.
In the Wikipedia article on this period of Chilean history, here are a few quotes: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._intervention_in_Chile#Quotes)
"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves." — Henry Kissinger. (Cited in this (http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19750101faessay10135-p0/richard-r-fagen/the-united-states-and-chile-roots-and-branches.html) Foreign Affairs Magazine article)
"Not a nut or bolt shall reach Chile under Allende. Once Allende comes to power we shall do all within our power to condemn Chile and all Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty." — Edward M. Korry, U.S. Ambassador to Chile, upon hearing of Allende's election.
"Make the economy scream [in Chile to] prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him" — Richard Nixon, orders to CIA director Richard Helms on September 15, 1970.
"It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup. It would be much preferable to have this transpire prior to 24 October but efforts in this regard will continue vigorously beyond this date. We are to continue to generate maximum pressure toward this end, utilizing every appropriate resource. It is imperative that these actions be implemented clandestinely and securely so that the USG and American hand be well hidden..." — A communique to the CIA base in Chile, issued on October 16, 1970, which can be viewed by clicking here (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/ch05-01.htm).
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However, I do suspect that Nixon would have harped on those "leftist death squads" had they existed. But then, perhaps, you think Nixon was part of the left, just as you seem to indicate (http://www.transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=5#edit7056) that Bush and Cheney are also part of the left, and this is some big conspiracy to cover up the existence of those "left-wing death squads."
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones, Mike.
Regards,
Alan
Alan_OldStudent
12-27-2008, 12:34 AM
Alan someone passed this article on to me; http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6FD2775C-F4FD-4414-A3E4-FF46B4B16505
The bottom of the article notes that the information used was taken from this source to quote the author " *(All above quotes and incidents are fully documented in La Agresion Del Oso; Intervencion Sovietica y Cubana en Chile by Gonzalo Rojas Sanches, a Fullbright Scholar and visiting professor at Notre Dame who heads the History Department at Chile's Catholic University.) "
Hi Mike,
By the way, Mike, FrontPageMagazine.com, to which your link leads me, is an organ of David Horowitz, a very well-known right-wing "intellectual." Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz#Criticism) has a laundry-list of its critics and their charges.
So whatever else one can say about FrontPageMagazine and its article, the source itself cannot be passed off as a "neutral" source of news and commentary.
Regards,
Alan
MikeNY
12-27-2008, 06:48 PM
Alan I regret that singer poet was murdered. I remember hearing his music.
No my friend's family were not rich, and were mixed blood and lower class, have Indian's in the family. I don't think death squads care what your class is, just your an enemy. The poor were killed by the Left Death Squads along with other enemies; am sure the Right Death Squads followed the same pattern.
My friends really was quite beautiful, almost Asian looking, petit and black haired and striking.
Alan_OldStudent
12-28-2008, 01:55 AM
Hi Mike,
You wrote:
Attacking David Horowitz, a very well-known right-wing "intellectual, that was a Marxist and his frontpagemagazine is a smart move, you can also check on the author of the article.
Actually, I mentioned that Horowitz and his FrontPageMagazine.com are not exactly unbiased sources, as in this earlier thread (http://www.transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=5#edit6971), you had indicated that your sources were mostly balanced and professional, unlike my leftist sources. With all due respect to you, I was pointing out the bias of your source.
Now I'm not saying anything Horowitz says should be discounted, just because he's a right-wing ideologue. It's just that I think that one should bear his biases in mind and his propensity for using inflammatory language and stereotyping his opponents.
Moreover, if you recall, I had approvingly quoted Horowitz myself in this previous thread (http://www.transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=3#edit6083) for having the courage to say that those conservative colleagues of his who are saying the Obama election was stolen are guilty of "sore looserism," (much to Free's consternation).
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Mike, you also state, But the information seems to come from a differnt source as noted Gonzalo Rojas Sanchez authored the origianl document that was quoted;" *(All above quotes and incidents are fully documented in La Agresion Del Oso; Intervencion Sovietica y Cubana en Chile by Gonzalo Rojas Sanchez,....
I haven't read Professor Rojas-Sanchez's book, "La agresión del Oso. Intervención soviética y cubana en Chile, 1959-1973." So I could not say how well documented anything is in that book. However, the actual title of this book, which means "The Bear's Aggression, Soviet and Cuban Intervention In Chile" seems to me to be less academic than overblown and polemic. (A reference to the concept of the Russian Bear, no doubt). But have you read this book? Do you read Spanish?
However, I did click on the link you gave for the article on Professor Rojas-Sanchez, which appeared in the Spanish language Wikipedia. Your link leads to a clumsy machine translation, so I checked the original Spanish, which says in the very first paragraph:
Gonzalo Rojas Sánchez (n. Santiago de Chile, 26 de agosto de 1953) es un profesor, licenciado en Derecho, historiador, y escritor chileno. Numerario del Opus Dei, ha destacado por su defensa del régimen y la persona de Augusto Pinochet.
Following is my translation of that first paragraph, as opposed to a computer-generated one, with a few comments:
Gonzalo Rojas Sánchez (born in Santiago de Chile, Aug 26, 1953) is a professor, graduate in legal studies, historian, and Chilean author. Holding the rank of Numerary in Opus Dei, he is well-known for his defense of the regime and person of Augusto Pinochet.
Note that the article says that Professor Rojas Sánchez is well known for the defense of the regime and person of Augusto Pinochet, Pinochet the dictator, Pinochet the man you yourself called a fascist, Pinochet the man who was a leading light of Operación Cóndor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor), a cabal of gangsters, kidnappers, assassins in the service of rightist military dictators throughout South America.
Considering his association with Opus Dei, one might not be too surprised that Professor Rojas Sánchez may have dedicated his life to supporting such scum. After all, Opus Dei has long been associated with rightist military dictators, beginning with that Hitler ally, Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain and butcher of Barcelona.
According to your citation, it appears that Professor Rojas Sánchez is a Numerary of Opus Dei. The Wikipedia describes the Numeraries of Opus Dei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_dei)this way:
Numeraries, the second largest type of members of Opus Dei, comprise about 20% of total membership.[71] Numeraries are celibate members who usually live in special centers run by Opus Dei. Both men and women may become numeraries, although the centers are strictly gender-segregated.[52] Numeraries generally have careers and devote the bulk of their income to the organization
Some of Opus Dei's ex-members say it has cult-like characteristics. Anyhow, it all does kind of fit in, doesn't it, Mike?
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Nor should we be surprised that the Nixon gang and the US government was involved in overthrowing a democracy and installing a police state in its stead. The US has a long history of interference in Chile's internal affairs. beginning with President Madison sending Joel Roberts Poinsett in 1811 and the Itata and Baltimore incidents around 1891. In 1964, 6 years before Allende was elected president, the CIA spent millions of dollars in covert action to subvert the election and prevent Allende from winning, according to this CBS news story (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/09/11/world/main232452.shtml).
Can you imagine the kind of outcry there would be if it were discovered that Cuba, Russia, China, or Iran had run some sort of covert action to sway the elections so that Obama won?
Mike, you should read that CBS story. It has lots of information about dirty tricks, black bag operations, and kidnap and murder plots financed by our tax dollars.
I hope you'll agree with me that CBS is not some Bolshie news outfit, whose news stories can safely be ignored.
Regards,
Alan
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